[Yaaarc] New FRC Control System - Announcement & Training

Ray Kelm kelmray at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 14:00:39 EDT 2008


I'm not sure just how "real world" that really is though. It looks
more to me like NI trying to promote a new product.

I work at a company that builds automated systems for assembly plants,
and while I'm sure that people are using them, but I know that for the
systems that I build, I would probably never choose this controller
based on it's price. There are many solutions out there that are much
cheaper, and provide at least as good performanance.

Don't get be wrong, NI does make great hardware, and it's a pleasure
to work with, but it comes at such a high cost that if I were to quote
one of our typical systems using it, we'd never get the job.

-Ray

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, M. Adam Davis <adavis at ubasics.com> wrote:
> Sounds like the companies that are driving the competition want students to
>  learn real world equipment.  Still, very pricey.
>
>  -Adam
>
>  On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Ray Kelm <kelmray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wow, that controller is expensive. The cheapest version is $1500, and
>  > that's without I/O modules.
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Neal Probert <neal at nealzilla.com> wrote:
>  > > I'm kinda disappointed, actually. This is vendor lock-in with
>  > proprietary
>  > > software and expensive hardware modules.
>  > >
>  > >  http://www.ni.com/compactrio/
>  > >
>  > >  I was hoping for something a bit more standard, like an ARM chipset in
>  > a
>  > > simpler single board computer layout with standard interfaces. And stuff
>  > > that would allow the use of open source software.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  Keith Mc. (Route-To YAR) wrote:
>  > >
>  > > > Hey all,
>  > > > For those interested in the FIRST contest - the control system has
>  > > > been scheduled for a complete replacement, effective next season.
>  > > >
>  > > > I just found out that the new 2008 robot control system will be
>  > announced
>  > > during the Championships in Atlanta this week, via a live webcast from
>  > the
>  > > CURIE field this Thursday (tomorrow, 4/17/08) at 9AM.  This allows
>  > > > all of us to see what the new system will be!
>  > > >
>  > > > Live webcast:
>  > > http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics/first/atlanta-finals-2008/
>  > > > ...Tune in 9 AM this Thursday to see the brand new FRC control
>  > system...
>  > > >
>  > > > Online Data (after noon EST on Thu): www.usfirst.org/frccontrolsystem
>  > > >
>  > > > For those attending the Championships, there will also be training on
>  > > there in Atlanta. See below for the schedule.
>  > > >
>  > > > - Keith Mc.
>  > > > ACTI - Automation Computer Technologies, Inc.
>  > > > FIRST FRC Team 1502, "Technical Difficulties"
>  > > >
>  > > > FIRST wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > > Subject: **FIRST EMAIL**/Future of FRC Additional Information
>  > > > > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:17:23 -0400
>  > > > > Out to FRC Teams...
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Greetings Teams:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Dean Kamen's sneak peek of the new FRC control system is less than a
>  > day
>  > > > > away. If you're in Atlanta, please join us Thursday morning at 9AM
>  > on
>  > > > > Curie for the Sneak Peek of the future of FRC announcement and
>  > > demonstration.
>  > > > > Then join us for:
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Demonstration sessions on the Pit Practice field
>  > > > > * 5:30PM Thursday
>  > > > > * 7:45AM & 5:30PM Friday
>  > > > > * 7:45AM Saturday
>  > > > >
>  > > > > One hour training sessions for teams in C101
>  > > > > * 11AM, 1PM & 3PM Thursday
>  > > > > * 9AM, 11AM, 1PM & 3PM Friday
>  > > > >
>  > > > > Two hour training session for Mentors in C101
>  > > > > * 6PM Thursday
>  > > > >
>  > > > > If you're unable to attend, log on to
>  > > > > - http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics/first/atlanta-finals-2008/
>  > > > > to see the live broadcast or visit
>  > > > > - www.usfirst.org/frccontrolsystem after 12 noon EST
>  > > > > to find videos of the announcement, the demonstration, the team
>  > > > > training and the mentor training plus links to more information.
>  > > > >
>  > > > >
>  > > >
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>  > >
>  > >  --
>  > >  Neal Probert (neal at nealzilla.com) aka Niall Lundkvist
>  > >
>  >  ========================================================================
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>  > >  application in life. -- Calvin
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